Cool, cool and more cool. Dracula X vinyl

bust3dstr8 · 04/08/2008, 03:39 PM

These are actually for sale too, over at DP.

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nectarsis · 04/08/2008, 03:41 PM

SignOfZeta · 04/08/2008, 04:51 PM

So what's on it? I can't read the label.

Turbo D · 04/08/2008, 05:09 PM

I'd love to have that

Nazi NecroPhile · 04/08/2008, 05:36 PM

105% awesome.

SignOfZeta · 04/08/2008, 06:04 PM

Its only awesome if the tunes on it are cool. I assume "Gate to Heaven - (DJ Fei Long X Beat Mix)" is on a CD somewhere. Does anyone have it?

nat · 04/08/2008, 06:25 PM

Quote from: guest on 04/08/2008, 05:36 PM105% awesome.

I wonder if it's 85% new?

awack · 04/08/2008, 06:45 PM

That is cool.

QuoteI wonder if it's 85% new?

when some one says that a game system is 85% new on ebay, does that mean its 15% used?

offsidewing · 04/08/2008, 06:56 PM

Quote from: nat on 04/08/2008, 06:25 PM
Quote from: guest on 04/08/2008, 05:36 PM105% awesome.
I wonder if it's 85% new?

HO-LEE SHIT. I haven't been on the forum in 8 months and this joke has not died.

I love this forum. More than I love my own children...

nat · 04/08/2008, 07:08 PM

Quote from: offsidewing on 04/08/2008, 06:56 PM
Quote from: nat on 04/08/2008, 06:25 PM
Quote from: guest on 04/08/2008, 05:36 PM105% awesome.
I wonder if it's 85% new?
HO-LEE SHIT. I haven't been on the forum in 8 months and this joke has not died.

Actually, it did die 'bout 1 year ago, but it twinkles on in my heart. After Necromancer's comment, I couldn't resist. In an odd alignment of the stars, you just happened to pop up right after. That in itself is probably funnier than the joke itself.

Joe Redifer · 04/08/2008, 07:32 PM

This would only be cool if it were the actual soundtrack taken from the original masters (assuming they were better than 16-bit 44.1Khz audio). I don't give a shit about some guy who calls himself DJ Feilong.

SignOfZeta · 04/08/2008, 07:39 PM

Well, its a 12" in a plain black sleeve. Its obviously for club use, hence the remix. Actual game music isn't very good for clubs most of the time.

I'd rather have the actual soundtrack on CD, and save the 12" for the remix, as is the normal practice with most music.

Joe Redifer · 04/08/2008, 07:41 PM

But how does one know the remixes are any good? Tons upon tons of self-proclaimed "DJs" over at OC Remix are dogshit on a stick. And DJ ≠ musician. DJ = someone who plays records and sometimes scratches them back and forth as homies spin on da cardboard.

SignOfZeta · 04/08/2008, 07:57 PM

Well, in a real record store that caters to DJs you just listen to it before you buy it. Since this seems to be an official release, its probably somewhat OK, but its anyone's guess as to it being good or not.

Since I'm not hip to "DP", I don't know if these are for sale from a person on a forum or in an actual web store. Can I just buy this for $10 or what?

Either way if you think, "DJ = someone who plays records and sometimes scratches them back and forth as homies spin on da cardboard." then you are almost certainly not going to like this no matter what it sounds like. My guess is that it would fall into the "bad trance" genre knowing Japan and Konami and all that, but its anyone's guess.

EDIT: I found a review of the CD that has both of these tracks on it (or at least versions of them).

http://www.soundtrackcentral.com/cds/draculax_remixies.htm
https://soundtrackcentral.com/albums/62

EDIT 2: This 12" seems to be 10 years old, so probably not easy to find. I just pirated the Fei Long thing. Its a sort of pidgin pastiche of different styles of house using some phased samples from...some game, not sure which one not being a huge Vampire fan. Basically I won't be seeking this record.

offsidewing · 04/08/2008, 09:25 PM

Yes indeed. The last time fortune shined upon me like this was years ago when a buddy of mine told me about something called an 'iPod.' 4,000 shares of apple stock later...

For those of you scratching your head, and perhaps some vinyl, at 85% new, check out the link entitled "Wow..." in the Turbo Discussion section. This was the best idea that never was. Almost like your laser discs...

SignOfZeta · 04/08/2008, 09:28 PM

Wait...what?

offsidewing · 04/09/2008, 12:53 AM

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 04/08/2008, 09:28 PMWait...what?

If 85% new is what you want, cut and paste this thread...

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=2938.0

Keranu · 04/09/2008, 01:00 AM

That is 85% frickin' awesome right there, if not more! I remember years ago on the FamiConsumer forum, someone posted a Salamander Vinyl I think.

ParanoiaDragon · 04/09/2008, 01:08 AM

I have the cd, is pretty much stuff from Symphony of the Night/Noturne in the Moonlight. I don't like techno, but most of the songs I thought were ok, but one of them(I forget which one) is a bunch of nothing & goes on for about 12 minutes....of just a beat.....& maybe a noise every so often

Joe Redifer · 04/09/2008, 02:33 AM

That's trance for ya. It'd be cheaper and easier to pound a hammer to a metronome for ten hours. You'd get the same amount of musical creativity out of it.

SignOfZeta · 04/09/2008, 06:51 AM

OK, grandpa.

Joe Redifer · 04/09/2008, 06:46 PM

Prove me wrong, whippersnapper.

Sinistron · 04/09/2008, 06:55 PM

Trance is total garbage. You don't have to be a grandpa to see that. The very idea alone is corny. "Trance". It is devoid of rhythm, and like joe said devoid of creativity. It is for thumb-sucking goobers wishing they could climb back into a womb.

SignOfZeta · 04/09/2008, 10:45 PM

Quote from: Sinistron on 04/09/2008, 06:55 PMTrance is total garbage. You don't have to be a grandpa to see that. The very idea alone is corny. "Trance". It is devoid of rhythm, and like joe said devoid of creativity. It is for thumb-sucking goobers wishing they could climb back into a womb.

How it it be devoid of rhythm if it comes from a computer? I can see saying its devoid of soul or whatever, but the rhythm is mathematically perfect to the milisecond, even if soulless.

From my experience the more people are likely to diss an entire genre of music (one that they probably can't even define) the less they really know about music as a whole and the more narrow their tastes tend to be. Usually these people are into Nu Rock or possibly worse, country. This is of course a generalization, but then that Pandora's box seems to have been opened here already. When my crazy uncle told me for the hundredth time that rap music was just noise, the sentiment wasn't coming from his massive exposure to all kinds of music, his time in the philharmonic, his masters in music, or anything like that because in reality he's just a guy with a passing interest in music as a whole that hasn't bought a single recording of anything since 1968.

Anyway, the track I listened to was a sort of house kit-bash. Japan didn't really discover trance proper until a year or two later. Also, it isn't very good so this record is only for collectors.

Sinistron · 04/09/2008, 10:57 PM

Trance is not a genre- it is a sub-genre of electronica- which I didn't dismiss as a whole. Drum n' Bass is more up my ally- along with down tempo and trip-hop.
As for rhythm my man- if you get all your rhythm out of a computer than you certainly can't dance- much less play the wall sipping a sex on the beach without looking gooberish.

SignOfZeta · 04/09/2008, 11:40 PM

Quote from: Sinistron on 04/09/2008, 10:57 PMTrance is not a genre- it is a sub-genre of electronica- which I didn't dismiss as a whole.

Yeah, this is kind of what I'm talking about. "Electronica" is a stupid word invented by Spin magazine or MTV or some other jack-ass corporate racket that exists completely outside the scene that it attempts to describe. Its used to lump everything electronic into one easily marketed pile. Its almost totally an American thing too. Its exactly the opposite of a master genre since it was created post-facto. Its dismissive, if anything. I'm not saying that trance isn't necessarily a sub-genre, it kind of is, I'm just saying that it didn't really spin off from anything called "electronica". Trance dates back to about 1988 or so, and has its origins in acid house and new age/space music, but today its defined in such broad terms and range of quality that its hard to pin down. In fact, my little history blurb there is highly debatable. The underground nature of dance music makes it very difficult to document.

QuoteDrum n' Bass is more up my ally- along with down tempo and trip-hop.

Um...but D&B comes from the same computer as trance. You aren't making any sense.

QuoteAs for rhythm my man- if you get all your rhythm out of a computer...

Virtually all electronic music is synchronized with a MIDI clock or something like it going all the way back to Kraftwerk. The music gets it from a computer, not me.

Quotethan you certainly can't dance- much less play the wall sipping a sex on the beach without looking gooberish.

Yeah, I...just don't know what to say in response to something such an awesome statement.

I do have a LINK though.

SignOfZeta · 04/09/2008, 11:47 PM

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 04/09/2008, 06:46 PMProve me wrong, whippersnapper.

It just occurred to me that you might actually be serious. Should I upload a couple of tracks for you?

Sinistron · 04/10/2008, 12:36 AM

There's not much for me to say here- you kind of do it all for me.

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 04/09/2008, 11:40 PMI'm not saying that trance isn't necessarily a sub-genre, it kind of is

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 04/09/2008, 11:40 PMIn fact, my little history blurb there is highly debatable. The underground nature of dance music makes it very difficult to document.

Thanks Zeke. You make it easy for me. I'm kind of tired anyway.

Other than that- Drum n' Bass has better rhythms than Trance- precisely why I like it. It is computer generated breakbeats- based on hip-hop rhythms that didn't originate from computer drums- what wasn't loops from real records were made on early drum machines- computerized to a degree but tapped out hands on and with feeling- not by looking at a quantize frame in front of you and mathematically adding hits in and subtracting hits out. Yeah Drum n' Bass, Trip Hop- Down Tempo- the stuff I like- all based on those old hands on break beat rhythms- just either slowed down or sped up. Trance on the other hand has no real pull, no gravity. Just weak frozen emotional swells and boring valleys that go nowhere significant while weak unrhythmic drums brace it loosely. I could barely get it on to trance music- it's mostly for freaks peaked out on drugs or for people who actually think its good music.

I'm actually rather surprised here Zeke to be honest. I know you listen to some good stuff- Saul Williams and what not- though some of the tracks produced by Rick Rubin are a little overproduced. You should know better than to be pulled into the fake glow of something as insubstantial as Trance.

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 04/09/2008, 11:40 PMYeah, I...just don't know what to say in response to something such an awesome statement.

Maybe your response should have been "Hey I'm so out of touch with humor that I don't get the joke."
That would have worked fine.

PCEngineHell · 04/10/2008, 01:15 AM

Yea,I was never impressed with the trance scene. Typically mindless music that you have to be sedated to tolerate or to be fooled into enjoying,the whole while enjoying glow sticks and what ever other lite brite garbage you can slap all over your body to look like Dynamo from the Running Man while being blinded by the multi colored light show from the stage/DJ areas. Just rubbish. More useless then a dedicated Stryper crowd ,as uncool as that teenage girl you knew that huffed on air freshener cans in high school,and just as dull to my ears as a sunday sermon.

Joe Redifer · 04/10/2008, 05:01 AM

Quote from: SignOfZetaIt just occurred to me that you might actually be serious. Should I upload a couple of tracks for you?

Sure, if you like. There is some trance I like. Yuzo Koshiro's Wangan Midnight 2 probably falls into the trance category. Not really good to sit around listening to on it's own, but great for racing games! I always considered trance to be in the "techno" genre. I've rarely heard it called "electronica".

Keranu · 04/10/2008, 05:21 AM

Trance, electronica, whatever, it's all techno to me.

SignOfZeta · 04/10/2008, 06:37 AM

Quote from: Joe RediferSure, if you like. There is some trance I like. Yuzo Koshiro's Wangan Midnight 2 probably falls into the trance category. Not really good to sit around listening to on it's own, but great for racing games! I always considered trance to be in the "techno" genre. I've rarely heard it called "electronica".

I'll see what I can find. Yuzo's Wangan stuff is kind of cookie cutter, but its OK. Its great as game music but not really top end.

MurderDate · 04/10/2008, 10:43 AM

Quote from: Keranu on 04/10/2008, 05:21 AMTrance, electronica, whatever, it's all techno to me.

exactly

SignOfZeta · 04/12/2008, 01:24 AM

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 04/10/2008, 05:01 AM
Quote from: SignOfZetaIt just occurred to me that you might actually be serious. Should I upload a couple of tracks for you?
Sure, if you like. There is some trance I like. Yuzo Koshiro's Wangan Midnight 2 probably falls into the trance category. Not really good to sit around listening to on it's own, but great for racing games! I always considered trance to be in the "techno" genre. I've rarely heard it called "electronica".

I PMed you a link to some some stuff I uploaded.

Yeah, most of this stuff exists because its part of an entire setting. There is a club, and drugs, and people, and its all in a continuous mix. Sometimes the setting is just a racing game. Or Rez. Tracks by themselves listened to at home aren't very fun most of the time unless its the really good stuff. Kind of like how film scores usually aren't very fun on their own if you haven't seen the movie yet. If you take the music out of the setting it can be as lame as getting drunk by yourself before noon.

My friends and I all used to call electronic dance music "techno", which I think was fitting. Since about 1991 or so techno has sort of become its own more focused genre. But then I live 20 minutes from Detroit, so maybe my being able tell the difference is a regional thing.