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Ji-L87 · 05/05/2013, 04:45 PM

Just watched it earlier - nice gaming room and audio setups. Even the retro systems gets a nice pair of speakers, as they well should

Dave should put up a sign "You have found a secret area" above the entrance to his secret box storage...space...room thing. And put a chest in there for good measure.

PCEngineHell · 05/05/2013, 05:01 PM

Quote from: Ji-L87 on 05/05/2013, 04:45 PMJust watched it earlier - nice gaming room and audio setups. Even the retro systems gets a nice pair of speakers, as they well should

Dave should put up a sign "You have found a secret area" above the entrance to his secret box storage...space...room thing. And put a chest in there for good measure.

Or dead hookers. That's usually what gets stuffed in mysterious holes in the wall of someones large house.

Tatsujin · 05/06/2013, 06:40 AM

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 05/05/2013, 04:06 PM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 05/05/2013, 07:58 AMwhen comes teh new ep. ?
It doesn't look like anyone posted last week's episode:

Room and Collection Tour

wow joe thx. nice show offs there. no. great stuff. especially your studio and all the free space you guys have over there

grahf · 05/06/2013, 10:36 AM

Yeah no joke! I forgot how much space people have in America.

TR0N · 05/12/2013, 06:13 AM

Potato Sack !!! Err-Game Sack-RPGS Part 2

Tatsujin · 05/12/2013, 06:34 AM

bummler

TR0N · 05/12/2013, 06:53 AM

Quote from: Tatsujin on 05/12/2013, 06:34 AMbummler

You don't know how to obey the role of the dice do you

Joe Redifer · 05/12/2013, 03:31 PM

Oh, just watch it, Tats.

DragonmasterDan · 05/12/2013, 03:48 PM

Here's some fun fact's on Panzer Dragoon Saga. The low print run legend comes from the fact that when originally released in May of 1998 Sega of America printed only 6,000 copies.

However, Sega made several reprints starting in July 1998 and through September of that year. There was around 36,000 North American copies of the game. It's actually an average level print run for a US Saturn game. It's just a high demand game, and the legend of the low print run remains years later.

esteban · 05/12/2013, 06:32 PM

Quote from: DragonmasterDan on 05/12/2013, 03:48 PMHere's some fun fact's on Panzer Dragoon Saga. The low print run legend comes from the fact that when originally released in May of 1998 Sega of America printed only 6,000 copies.

However, Sega made several reprints starting in July 1998 and through September of that year. There was around 36,000 North American copies of the game. It's actually an average level print run for a US Saturn game. It's just a high demand game, and the legend of the low print run remains years later.

I didn't know that. Interesting.

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 05/12/2013, 03:31 PMOh, just watch it, Tats.

He will, grudgingly. HA!

munchiaz · 05/13/2013, 10:30 AM

another awesome ep.

Ji-L87 · 05/13/2013, 01:49 PM

I was expecting Grandia to be mentioned at any second but yeah, then I read the comment field and understood why.

Still, for a guy who don't really like RPGs, Grandia has given me lots of fun

Not sure if I'll ever finish it, however. It drags on forever...

DragonmasterDan · 05/13/2013, 02:15 PM

Quote from: Ji-L87 on 05/13/2013, 01:49 PMI was expecting Grandia to be mentioned at any second but yeah, then I read the comment field and understood why.

Still, for a guy who don't really like RPGs, Grandia has given me lots of fun

Not sure if I'll ever finish it, however. It drags on forever...

Grandia 1 is terrific.

Great characters, great pacing and interesting and whimsical scenarios. Even the battle system is a lot of fun. Oh, and don't forget the music.

The second game tried too hard to be "bad ass" and copy the dark SquareSoft aesthetic of the time it was made. I wasn't that impressed with X-treme and while I own Grandia 3 it didn't keep my interest long enough to progress very far.

Joe Redifer · 05/13/2013, 03:13 PM

I never finished Grandia 2. I don't even know how far in I got. At least several hours. No idea how long the game is.

EvilEvoIX · 05/13/2013, 06:52 PM

Love the vids. Just watched the Game Cube Episode. Where in the worlds can I get a Component Cable for my Game cube?

Joe Redifer · 05/13/2013, 08:22 PM

I'm pretty sure I got mine direct from Nintendo.

PCEngineHell · 05/13/2013, 08:48 PM

Quote from: EvilEvoIX on 05/13/2013, 06:52 PMLove the vids. Just watched the Game Cube Episode. Where in the worlds can I get a Component Cable for my Game cube?

They are not manufactured anymore and are costly. They used components in the cable to aid in the progressive scan video signal, so you cant just build one on the fly. You also need a older GC deck with the correct digital AV port. It is cheaper and best to just buy a old Wii with GC ability and use that instead via component out at this point.

jeffhlewis · 05/13/2013, 10:14 PM

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 05/13/2013, 08:22 PMI'm pretty sure I got mine direct from Nintendo.

Got mine direct from Nintendo back in 2004 for about $25. Thank god I didn't throw the box away; never dreamed it would become a collector's item.

Joe Redifer · 05/13/2013, 11:29 PM

Yes the Gamecube has digital video that the component cable converts into an analog signal. I don't know if the digital is DVI-spec or not. Knowing Nintendo, probably not.

roflmao · 05/14/2013, 12:03 AM

One of the great things about Super Mario RPG is that it still fun to play as an adult but it doesn't have any scary monsters or adult plot lines so I can play it around my 5 year old.

It's funny how that's become a factor these days.

Mathius · 05/14/2013, 12:08 AM

I couldn't watch the whole episode because YT was being a pain. I got through most of it though. Will someone please sell me a reasonably priced copy of Panzer Dragoon Saga? Please? Anyone?

...damn.

TR0N · 05/14/2013, 01:16 AM

Quote from: Mathius on 05/14/2013, 12:08 AMI couldn't watch the whole episode because YT was being a pain. I got through most of it though. Will someone please sell me a reasonably priced copy of Panzer Dragoon Saga? Please? Anyone?

...damn.

LOL if you don't mind the language barrier the JP version of PDS often go's for $30.00

Psycho Punch · 05/14/2013, 04:52 PM

Panzer Dragoon Saga looks very neat, I'll end up buying a Saturn + the Japanese copy (and of course a *ahem* backup of the US one) just so I can play it.

Great episode!

TR0N · 05/26/2013, 03:16 AM

Game Sack The Neo Geo X Portable System

Tatsujin · 05/26/2013, 03:50 AM

oh kewl, will watch that.

esteban · 05/26/2013, 06:06 AM

Quote from: Tatsujin on 05/26/2013, 03:50 AMoh kewl, will watch that.

I am really curious about this. I forgot about it, in fact....

Ji-L87 · 05/26/2013, 09:15 AM

Great episode, just watching Neo Geo sprites & graphics makes me happy. Even if the screen tears like mad and the sharpness is horribad. Nice camerawork and great bonus ending

Mathius · 05/26/2013, 09:56 PM

LOL at the ending.

roflmao · 05/26/2013, 09:59 PM

Love the ending! Another great episopde.

I nearly pre-purchased one of those, but am glad I've waited. Hopefully the sound and video issues will be worked out with a firmware update and I can pick one up in the future. I realize that people have hacked it, but if I want a hacked device, I'd look at the JXD s7300.

Tatsujin · 05/26/2013, 10:27 PM

Quote from: Mathius on 05/26/2013, 09:56 PMLOL at the ending.

LOL indeed!

Great ep. Only thing I didn't like in particular was Joe's kinda ignorant review of Last Resort

Mathius · 05/26/2013, 10:46 PM

Quote from: Tatsujin on 05/26/2013, 10:27 PM
Quote from: Mathius on 05/26/2013, 09:56 PMLOL at the ending.
LOL indeed!

Great ep. Only thing I didn't like in particular was Joe's kinda ignorant review of Last Resort

I have found Last Resort to be a fair shooter, but very hard to get into. Credit feeding has been the only way for me to make any progress and there isn't any fun in that. Granted, the only version I have access to is on SNK Classics for the PS2, though I doubt it would make any difference if I had an actual copy. Plus Last Resort doesn't hold my interest like other shooties, e.g. Galactic Attack and Spriggan. The game's presentation is very nice though.

Joe Redifer · 05/26/2013, 11:20 PM

I love the internet. If I don't think of a game the exact same way someone else does, I'm the one who is ignorant.

Tatsujin · 05/26/2013, 11:25 PM

LOL, mind the

smiley. It's not serious to take stuff. It's just I so <3 that game, so I had to rant a lil bit..hehe.

SuperDeadite · 05/27/2013, 01:29 AM

The thing with Last Resort is that it's a 100% offensive based game. The Unit is not meant to be used as a shield, you should be firing it non-stop. A few hints, the orange unit sticks to walls, and is extremely useful. Also be aware the charge gauge does not determine power, just how far the unit will fly. This is a game all about getting up really close and smashing it all with the unit. The 2nd loop has some cool surprises too.

Honestly I find this game way easier then R-Type, but you can't be a chicken, you have to run in and destroy.

Joe Redifer · 05/27/2013, 03:59 AM

Hmmm... a rapid fire button might help. Did they ever make a Neo Geo Advantage? They should have.

Tatsujin · 05/27/2013, 05:37 AM

No, with a rapid button the drone/globe/shield is becoming useless.
You must charge and blast all the time. And between that you can let off some rockets and lazers.

TR0N · 05/27/2013, 05:59 AM

Quote from: TR0N on 05/26/2013, 03:16 AMGame Sack The Neo Geo X Portable System

I forgot to add,i also found the end of the video to be very funny as well.Beside what superdeadite mention about last resort is how you play it to enjoy it.Then again last resort is very similar to r-type which is why i enjoy it highly.

GohanX · 05/27/2013, 11:56 AM

Quote from: SuperDeadite on 05/27/2013, 01:29 AMAlso be aware the charge gauge does not determine power, just how far the unit will fly.

I've had this game on CD for years and had no idea about that. Thanks!

Joe Redifer · 05/27/2013, 07:25 PM

Quote from: TR0N on 05/27/2013, 05:59 AMThen again last resort is very similar to r-type which is why i enjoy it highly.

Nah. There's definitely something missing that R-Type has. The drone thingy in R-Type is much more cool for one. The enemies are much more interesting. The music is better (at least on the Turbo, not in the arcade). R-Type doesn't have those ear-piercingly annoying PSG sound effects that so many Neo Geo games do. And it doesn't try to blatantly rip off its artwork which gives Last Restort sort of a cheap Chinese knock-off type of feel. There's "Inspired by" and then there's "Inspired a little too much by".

The game would probably be much easier without the control lag, also.

Tatsujin · 05/27/2013, 10:58 PM

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 05/27/2013, 07:25 PM
Quote from: TR0N on 05/27/2013, 05:59 AMThen again last resort is very similar to r-type which is why i enjoy it highly.
Nah. There's definitely something missing that R-Type has. The drone thingy in R-Type is much more cool for one. The enemies are much more interesting. The music is better (at least on the Turbo, not in the arcade). R-Type doesn't have those ear-piercingly annoying PSG sound effects that so many Neo Geo games do. And it doesn't try to blatantly rip off its artwork which gives Last Restort sort of a cheap Chinese knock-off type of feel. There's "Inspired by" and then there's "Inspired a little too much by".

The game would probably be much easier without the control lag, also.

You just did not realize of how to use the drone in a fun way. The R-Type's drone may look cooler, but the Last Resort's drone can be used much more efficient and really adds a lot of value to the game.

The music is fantastic in LR, the PSG sound effex are debatable.

Also LR isn't really a blatant R-Type rip off since it is made by the very same IREM peeps that made R-Type.

An just as a side note, I also do love R-Type more than Last Resort, and that will never change. But this doesn't change the fact that LR is a fantastic game of its own kind.

Mathius · 05/27/2013, 11:23 PM

Quote from: Tatsujin on 05/27/2013, 10:58 PM
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 05/27/2013, 07:25 PM
Quote from: TR0N on 05/27/2013, 05:59 AMThen again last resort is very similar to r-type which is why i enjoy it highly.
Nah. There's definitely something missing that R-Type has. The drone thingy in R-Type is much more cool for one. The enemies are much more interesting. The music is better (at least on the Turbo, not in the arcade). R-Type doesn't have those ear-piercingly annoying PSG sound effects that so many Neo Geo games do. And it doesn't try to blatantly rip off its artwork which gives Last Restort sort of a cheap Chinese knock-off type of feel. There's "Inspired by" and then there's "Inspired a little too much by".

The game would probably be much easier without the control lag, also.
You just did not realize of how to use the drone in a fun way. The R-Type's drone may look cooler, but the Last Resort's drone can be used much more efficient and really adds a lot of value to the game.

The music is fantastic in LR, the PSG sound effex are debatable.

Also LR isn't really a blatant R-Type rip off since it is made by the very same IREM peeps that made R-Type.

An just as a side note, I also do love R-Type more than Last Resort, and that will never change. But this doesn't change the fact that LR is a fantastic game of its own kind.

As for ripping off other material I think Joe was mainly referring to LR's use of images from Akira.

Tatsujin · 05/27/2013, 11:51 PM

Quote from: Mathius on 05/27/2013, 11:23 PM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 05/27/2013, 10:58 PM
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 05/27/2013, 07:25 PM
Quote from: TR0N on 05/27/2013, 05:59 AMThen again last resort is very similar to r-type which is why i enjoy it highly.
Nah. There's definitely something missing that R-Type has. The drone thingy in R-Type is much more cool for one. The enemies are much more interesting. The music is better (at least on the Turbo, not in the arcade). R-Type doesn't have those ear-piercingly annoying PSG sound effects that so many Neo Geo games do. And it doesn't try to blatantly rip off its artwork which gives Last Restort sort of a cheap Chinese knock-off type of feel. There's "Inspired by" and then there's "Inspired a little too much by".

The game would probably be much easier without the control lag, also.
You just did not realize of how to use the drone in a fun way. The R-Type's drone may look cooler, but the Last Resort's drone can be used much more efficient and really adds a lot of value to the game.

The music is fantastic in LR, the PSG sound effex are debatable.

Also LR isn't really a blatant R-Type rip off since it is made by the very same IREM peeps that made R-Type.

An just as a side note, I also do love R-Type more than Last Resort, and that will never change. But this doesn't change the fact that LR is a fantastic game of its own kind.
As for ripping off other material I think Joe was mainly referring to LR's use of images from Akira.

Ah damn, that's right. Never bothered me tho, found it very cool back then and still find it so today. As we had an other deticated thread about this before, there are many many games using elements from movie, anime and music industry. I guess there's nothing more Japanesish than that

TR0N · 05/28/2013, 02:06 AM

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 05/27/2013, 07:25 PM
Quote from: TR0N on 05/27/2013, 05:59 AMThen again last resort is very similar to r-type which is why i enjoy it highly.
Nah. There's definitely something missing that R-Type has. The drone thingy in R-Type is much more cool for one. The enemies are much more interesting. The music is better (at least on the Turbo, not in the arcade). R-Type doesn't have those ear-piercingly annoying PSG sound effects that so many Neo Geo games do. And it doesn't try to blatantly rip off its artwork which gives Last Restort sort of a cheap Chinese knock-off type of feel. There's "Inspired by" and then there's "Inspired a little too much by".

The game would probably be much easier without the control lag, also.

The drone in r-type is more for positioning then any thing else.While the drone in last resort can be used more as a weapon.The other being how much memorization is required for the game later stages.The most i would nick picked towards last resort is the slow down in some stages.Not to mention,having to finish the game on it's second loop for the ending.While it's not better then r-type i do like how last resort has some of the same mechanics.For that matter for a early shoot'em up on the console id rather play LR instead of ghost pilots......

SuperDeadite · 05/28/2013, 08:14 AM

Last Resort rules. The final stage where you attack the massive ship and even go inside it to cause chaos.
R-Type 1 is better, but LR is still a fantastic game, best shooter on the Neo in playability imo.

Here's my old first loop 1cc vid on my AES.
Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

Tatsujin · 05/28/2013, 08:24 AM

WORD!!

DragonmasterDan · 05/28/2013, 02:02 PM

I had no idea the Neo-Geo X composite video was that bad!

Joe Redifer · 05/28/2013, 03:30 PM

Quote from: tatsThe music is fantastic in LR, the PSG sound effex are debatable.

How are the PSG sound effex [SIC] debatable? Are there actually people that like the overloud PSG sound effects used in many Neo Geo games? "My ears are in pain due to high frequency noises that are excessively louder than all other sounds made by the game! Yay the Neo Geo is awesome!!! PSG sound effects suck on other systems but they are TEH RUL3Z on TEH NEO!" Somehow I doubt it.

GohanX · 05/28/2013, 03:42 PM

Quote from: DragonmasterDan on 05/28/2013, 02:02 PMI had no idea the Neo-Geo X composite video was that bad!

It looked better in Joe's video than on my TV, and I have a pretty good TV. The only thing I've found that works well is a Commodore 64 monitor with the colors turned down a bit, it looks pretty good that way.

I actually play mine on a SD CRT using a HDMI to S-Video converter. Looks decent, not as good as a real Neo by a long shot, but about the same as running a Neo emulator on a OG Xbox.

esadajr · 05/28/2013, 04:08 PM

Quote from: JKM on 05/28/2013, 03:42 PM
Quote from: DragonmasterDan on 05/28/2013, 02:02 PMI had no idea the Neo-Geo X composite video was that bad!
about the same as running a Neo emulator on a OG Xbox.

No way the neo geo x looks that good. You just got me thinking. Time to fire up good ol le mameox.

esadajr · 05/28/2013, 04:12 PM

I guess nothing beats those consolised MVS. I whish they made them in aluminum or something more modern.

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