Game Sack

[Joe Redifer]

Maybe. But at least it sold. Even at launch it was way lower in cost.

[DragonmasterDan]

I'm sure the $20 clearance bin price tags had something to do with that.

Hey, mine was 19.99 AND came with Virtual Fighter. That's a penny less and a free game :-D

[kazekirifx]

I'm sure the $20 clearance bin price tags had something to do with that.

It's funny that you mention that. I remember seeing some brand new PC-FX's for dirt cheap too, here in Japan around 2001 or so. Thanks to that, there are still plenty of units in the wild in good condition.

[seieienbu]

I honest to god thought that a Saturn was a 1-unit Sega Genesis, Sega CD, 32X.  It had that cartridge slot in the back and all and I was some idiot junior high kid at the time.  I bought Panzer Dragoon thinking that I could play it in my Sega CD since I also had a 32X. 

I was quite disappointed in the results, to say the least.  Playing Saturn games was why I bought a 32X to begin with.

[CrackTiger]

32X sold over 6 times what the PC-FX did.

The Saturn sold 16 times what 32X did and was its worst enemy.

The same thing that killed the SuperGrafx is what kept the Arcade Card from taking off. The current PCE hardware at the time was good enough and the current popular format for software was a safer bet for 3rd party publishers.

The Sega Mark III was Sega's second console. If NEC/Hudson had launched the PC-FX worldwide with a PCE user base of 30 - 40 million, then it likely would have fared better as well.

[Arkhan Asylum]

This was one of the better Gamesacks to me because the forced humor didn't show up until the end, but a few things bothered me:

1) No Yuna? wtf.  No Rolfee? uagdkljdfhklj
2) They didn't mention the FXGA or any of that (like the 3D Star Soldier demo, etc.)
3) The comment about it not being a worthy successor to the PCE irked me too.   I don't think two white dudes who can't noodlecart are allowed to comment on a game library that they mostly can't actually experience, lol.

In all honesty, the machine has the makings of a solid machine for that era.  A few more Zeroigar and Zenki like games, better versions of games like Ruruli Ra Rura, and you're doing pretty good.  More Team Innocent style adventure games?  even better.

The PS1 and Saturn both have similar RPG/Digital Comic games.   Some of which are PC-FX games too, as the video mentioned.

The problem was more that it just didn't catch on for whatever reason, didn't sell amazingly well, and didn't get the library it deserved.   I'd be curious to see why certain development companies didn't go all in with the machine and create stuff.   A Valis game on PC-FX would be excellent.   



Also, I thought Nirgends was awesome.

[Joe Redifer]

1 - No clue WTF a Rolfee is. I axed SamIAm for some advice and recommendations on the system and he never mentioned this Rolfee nonsense. I don't think he recommended Yuna.
1a - Just looked up Rolfee. I don't think the episode would have improved if that was in there.
2 - We didn't have any of that nonsense. If we mention something, we should probably show it.
3 - Do you think it was a worth successor to the PCE? I'm 100% confident it was not. So is Japan. They didn't buy it for shit. The PC-FX is Japan's Jaguar. Or maybe even their CD-i. Despite not being able to read the RPGs, you can pretty much tell what kind of games they are. And you can tell they were NOT top-tier stuff. Anyone who believes they are is deluding themselves. Personally I liked Boundary Gate. I think if Dave had not mentioned the language barrier in most of his segments people wouldn't go on and on in the comments about the language. but he did and now they focused on that because they saw it as complaining and giving the games a bad rep because of it (which he did not).

[ToyMachine78]

1 - No clue WTF a Rolfee is. I axed SamIAm for some advice and recommendations on the system and he never mentioned this Rolfee nonsense. I don't think he recommended Yuna.
1a - Just looked up Rolfee. I don't think the episode would have improved if that was in there.
2 - We didn't have any of that nonsense. If we mention something, we should probably show it.
3 - Do you think it was a worth successor to the PCE? I'm 100% confident it was not. So is Japan. They didn't buy it for shit. The PC-FX is Japan's Jaguar. Or maybe even their CD-i. Despite not being able to read the RPGs, you can pretty much tell what kind of games they are. And you can tell they were NOT top-tier stuff. Anyone who believes they are is deluding themselves. Personally I liked Boundary Gate. I think if Dave had not mentioned the language barrier in most of his segments people wouldn't go on and on in the comments about the language. but he did and now they focused on that because they saw it as complaining and giving the games a bad rep because of it (which he did not).

Ugh... Dave fucks up everything!!! Lol

[esteban]

1 - No clue WTF a Rolfee is. I axed SamIAm for some advice and recommendations on the system and he never mentioned this Rolfee nonsense. I don't think he recommended Yuna.
1a - Just looked up Rolfee. I don't think the episode would have improved if that was in there.
2 - We didn't have any of that nonsense. If we mention something, we should probably show it.
3 - Do you think it was a worth successor to the PCE? I'm 100% confident it was not. So is Japan. They didn't buy it for shit. The PC-FX is Japan's Jaguar. Or maybe even their CD-i. Despite not being able to read the RPGs, you can pretty much tell what kind of games they are. And you can tell they were NOT top-tier stuff. Anyone who believes they are is deluding themselves. Personally I liked Boundary Gate. I think if Dave had not mentioned the language barrier in most of his segments people wouldn't go on and on in the comments about the language. but he did and now they focused on that because they saw it as complaining and giving the games a bad rep because of it (which he did not).

Hahahahahshashs.

Joe, I thought YOU had final edit.

[Joe Redifer]

I do but if I take out chunks of what he says then the segment doesn't make sense and has gaps missing. I should have edited his script and removed them. But again the problem with that is I'd have to come up with something to replace those parts and not having played all of the games he did, I would be at a loss of what to say. But seriously, if we didn't mention the language thing so much hardly anyone who watched the video would mention it in their comments. They generally don't in our Left in Japan series and nobody uttered a peep about it in the X68000 episode. So we should have just left well enough alone. Though I did like speeding through the Dragon Knight 4 text. I wonder if that pissed anyone off. "Nooooooo you're not supposed to go through it so faaaaast!!" Anyway like I said, people are taking the language mentions as complaining about the games themselves and they are taking it the wrong way and have problems with basic comprehension.

The episode is performing fairly well, though.

[ClodBusted]

I like that PC-FX episode for sharing honest impressions.

[esteban]

I do but if I take out chunks of what he says then the segment doesn't make sense and has gaps missing. I should have edited his script and removed them. But again the problem with that is I'd have to come up with something to replace those parts and not having played all of the games he did, I would be at a loss of what to say. But seriously, if we didn't mention the language thing so much hardly anyone who watched the video would mention it in their comments. They generally don't in our Left in Japan series and nobody uttered a peep about it in the X68000 episode. So we should have just left well enough alone. Though I did like speeding through the Dragon Knight 4 text. I wonder if that pissed anyone off. "Nooooooo you're not supposed to go through it so faaaaast!!" Anyway like I said, people are taking the language mentions as complaining about the games themselves and they are taking it the wrong way and have problems with basic comprehension.

The episode is performing fairly well, though.

I was just teasing you. Of course, there are creative solutions that would have worked, but I understand your preferences.

I made this point in a different thread (in PC-FX section), but it was important to simply educate folks about this console's existence.

It was the necessary first step. GameSack did more to actually educate folks on the PC-FX's existence...

Now, however, it is the burden of someone else to make a video that illustrates the unique, admirable or intriguing aspects of the system and its library of games.


Also, I just want to say that I really enjoyed the CD-i episode! I loved it.

[shawnji]

I think my only quibble was at one point, and I forget who said it (probably Dave), there was mention of it being a "family-friendly show" just a short while after a game necessitating censor bars to cover up explicit sex acts had been featured.  I was kind of forced to assume sarcasm, but it definitely didn't come across that way.

[Arkhan Asylum]

At least mentioning the mascot would have been fun at the very least.

You should've asked me for recommendations/borrowed stuff, lol.  I even have the goofy homebrew stuff, and maybe some spare stuff still that you could've just kept. Return to Zork would have been another cool one to show.

I think, on paper, the PC-FX is a worthy PCE successor.    It's a pretty beautiful machine.

The library is a mixed bag depending on who you ask.     Boundary Gate is a pretty top notch dungeon crawling RPG.   It was also on Playstation, and was a pretty well received game overall.

The strategy games are also good.  Sparkling Feather in particular was a good one for me.

But, unfortunately, the PC-FX essentially only has the niche games.   Digital Comics, RPGs, and Strategy games. 

had they launched with less FMV-tastic action games, I think the thing would have caught on way better, and would have encouraged more games.    The PC-FX is seemingly easier to code for than the Sega Saturn, for example.

So, we could've had a bunch of shooters,  and arcade-action games, if they weren't investing all their time into more FMV games.

The language barrier issue for me is, you can't really properly review RPGs and such without knowing the story.   The story/characters often make up for any shortcomings the mechanics may have.    If you can't read them, you miss out.   

So, while you're not complaining, you're essentially just commenting on the mechanics which will generally boil down to "you walk around, there's menus, you fight stuff", which applies to basically every JRPG ever.

So, there just isn't much to say about sim / rpg games if you aren't able to talk about the characters and story.  That content is the meat of the game.

That's what the PC-FX boils down to for me when I describe it to someone:

"Can you read / understand Japanese at least enough to fumble through a game?  No?  Well, then you might wanna pass on it because the 4 action games on it cost a metric fuckton."

I personally never saw the point of fingerbanging your way through an RPG without knowing what you're even doing.   It just seems pointless.

It's unfortunate, really.   and it hurts peoples brains to try and comprehend that there's a video game machine that they more or less can't do much with.     every other Japanese machine, you can import and get away with playing a shitload of action games without worrying.

[CrackTiger]

The PC-FX is the inverse of the N64 and as such, I prefer the library over the N64s, even though I don't consider myself a big PC-FX fan. 2D games are a big deal to me and having even just Zenki and Zerogaier goes a long way towards tipping the scales for me. But RPGs and games filled with lots of art, cinemas and "redbook" music and voice acting, let alone touches of PCE aesthetics... that all makes the library more desirable than N64 and Jaguar. Can't say for sure with 3DO though, I'd have to further explore the libraries to make a definitive call.

[esteban]

The PC-FX is the inverse of the N64 and as such, I prefer the library over the N64s, even though I don't consider myself a big PC-FX fan. 2D games are a big deal to me and having even just Zenki and Zerogaier goes a long way towards tipping the scales for me. But RPGs and games filled with lots of art, cinemas and "redbook" music and voice acting, let alone touches of PCE aesthetics... that all makes the library more desirable than N64 and Jaguar. Can't say for sure with 3DO though, I'd have to further explore the libraries to make a definitive call.

Well, everything bests the Jaguar library.

[Arkhan Asylum]

The PC-FX at least dodged a bullet and didn't have all the western 3D wank nonsense that killed otherwise good ideas.

having played the entire PCFX library and probably 90% of N64's library, I can say I'd rather play PC-FX.

[geise]

having played the entire PCFX library and probably 90% of N64's library, I can say I'd rather play PC-FX.

Word!

[VenomMacbeth]

I agree with all that's been said about language barriers.  I don't even want to play through a mostly action-oriented game like Cadash without knowing the story.

With that, this was probably one of the most unfulfilling episodes of Game Sack for me.  Not at all by the fault of Joe or Dave, it just...sort of confirmed why I haven't looked deeper into the system & its library.

Was the PC-FX a worthy successor to the PC Engine?  Maybe not, but I can definitely see where they were going. 

The Hucards were mostly shooters & arcadey action games.  The CD medium brought a nice mixture of the aforementioned genres, while adding some fantastic RPGs, and most of all, anime cutscenes strewn throughout. As a fan of anime (fanime?  Fanny Maye?), I thoroughly appreciate this & it's honestly what persuaded me to finally pony up for a Duo.

The PC-FX seems to have kept going in that same direction, only to an extreme. 

I was about to cite the PC-FX's design for having a lack of foresight, but I forgot it has all those ports for add-on dongly-doodads.  Really, though, a true successor to the PCE should have had at least some 3D capabilities by default.  Everyone knew 3D was the way things were gonna go, because video games are a way for you to interact & experience a story that you otherwise couldn't experience in real life...and real life isn't in 2D.

[Joe Redifer]

I think my only quibble was at one point, and I forget who said it (probably Dave), there was mention of it being a "family-friendly show" just a short while after a game necessitating censor bars to cover up explicit sex acts had been featured.  I was kind of forced to assume sarcasm, but it definitely didn't come across that way.

The family friendly part was in Dave's original script. I changed it and removed the "family friendly" part because that's something that to me just sounds dumb. He said it anyway somehow. I've removed the words "family friendly" from more than one of his scripts successfully. Basically the gist is that we don't cuss to gain attention like lots of others do, but we still say ass and sometimes shit and other crap like that when needed. I think Dave might be worried about his daughter or his nephew watching. "Unca Dave said 'Fuckin' smelly diarrhea soup' so why can't I cuss too?"

You should've asked me for recommendations/borrowed stuff, lol.

I totally would have. Go back in time and PM me. 3 or 4 weeks outta do it.

[esteban]

I think my only quibble was at one point, and I forget who said it (probably Dave), there was mention of it being a "family-friendly show" just a short while after a game necessitating censor bars to cover up explicit sex acts had been featured.  I was kind of forced to assume sarcasm, but it definitely didn't come across that way.

The family friendly part was in Dave's original script. I changed it and removed the "family friendly" part because that's something that to me just sounds dumb. He said it anyway somehow. I've removed the words "family friendly" from more than one of his scripts successfully. Basically the gist is that we don't cuss to gain attention like lots of others do, but we still say ass and sometimes shit and other crap like that when needed. I think Dave might be worried about his daughter or his nephew watching. "Unca Dave said 'Fuckin' smelly diarrhea soup' so why can't I cuss too?"

The reason I watch Game Sack with my daughter is because it doesn't gratuitously use vulgar, offensive content. Even if I didn't watch it with my daughter, I love the fact that you two create a very compelling show without resorting to vulgar language. I'm no prude—I actually am horribly profane and must consciously stop myself from using lewd/inappropriate phrases/expressions.

[Sparky]

I think joe has a vaginia.

[Arkhan Asylum]

You should've asked me for recommendations/borrowed stuff, lol.

I totally would have. Go back in time and PM me. 3 or 4 weeks outta do it.

lol, it's your show.   You do the leg work.   I mean I know you have to fish for stuff from people so you don't miss things like how Joe and Mac are caveman ninjas, but really, you're capable of realizing who here might have PC-FX stuff, or could've made a more direct post about it.  I mean, you ARE moderator at the biggest NEC game console hardware forum on the internet.   Why not send a few PMs and reach out yourself?

Because I don't really like your show, I only remember to watch it when someone creates a dedicated thread to a specific episode, like this PC-FX one, or I see it in passing while scrolling around on Facebook.   

It's not really my job to follow and look for my opportunity to send someone things for a show I barely watch.  I am happy to help, since it's NEC and PC-FX.   But, I won't go out of my way to look for opportunity to help...

Honestly though, with the way you consistently miss things on this forum, I could've probably posted a thread called "JOE REDIFER, HERE IS SOME PC-FX STUFF" and you probably still would have missed it and then went OH HOW DID I MISS THIS, like a week or seven too late.

not that any of this matters because you seem to think it wouldn't have changed the outcome.

you're probably right.   Being able to properly review the majority of the games is what would have changed the outcome.

joe has a vagina.

fixed

[Sparky]

No that's what he calls it .. :p

[HailingTheThings]

You should've asked me for recommendations/borrowed stuff, lol.

I totally would have. Go back in time and PM me. 3 or 4 weeks outta do it.

Why not just plan a follow up episode for the PC-FX? Or maybe some sort of revisit episode that covers a few consoles?

PS Mew.

[SamIAm]

The problem with Rolfee and Yuna, and a few other PC-FX games that I think are very interesting, too, is that it's hard for Joe and Dave to say much about them. What the hell are they supposed to talk about if they don't speak Japanese, and to an audience of non-Japanese speakers, no less? Rolfee and Yuna just don't fit the formula. You might not like the formula itself, but you can hardly blame them for making the choices they did.

I do wish that they had invested a little more time in the games and investigated a few of them more deeply, but I can understand that this probably isn't realistic for a free show by two guys who otherwise work full time. I watch Game Sack regularly, I think they generally do a very good job, and I'm glad that they gave the PC-FX a shot even if the result was less than ideal.

BTW, Arkhan, how much Japanese do you read? I get the impression that you can handle a few hundred words only. Is that right? You know, I love your enthusiasm, and everything is cool as long as you are enjoying yourself, but I don't get why anyone who doesn't read Japanese at a fairly high level would play those text-heavy games. It seems like you'd have to be more in love with the idea of the games than the games themselves. You certainly can't expect most other non-readers to get the same kind of enjoyment as you. You also can't expect people to take your game reviews too seriously when you don't understand the story of a story-centric game. Sorry if that's harsh...

[Arkhan Asylum]

The problem with Rolfee and Yuna, and a few other PC-FX games that I think are very interesting, too, is that it's hard for Joe and Dave to say much about them. What the hell are they supposed to talk about if they don't speak Japanese, and to an audience of non-Japanese speakers, no less? Rolfee and Yuna just don't fit the formula. You might not like the formula itself, but you can hardly blame them for making the choices they did.

I go for enthusiasm.  It's important.   Flashing the official, and unofficial mascots would have been exciting, to me.   

I don't mind their choices, and get what they did really.  I just would've added a bit.   

All in all, I actually did think this was one of the better episodes, to me.   I personally am not really a big fan of ANY gaming videos.   I almost always find them boring.  Or I don't like the persons voice and then just get annoyed.  Or there's forced humor/wit that irks me.  I can't even watch like, a tutorial video on something.   Just give me a paragraph instead. 

I had to force myself to even sit and finish the PCFX one here.

I also don't fault the commentary they did for the games.  They did what I would have expected.  It's just unfortunate that there ends up being almost diddly dick to talk about with the games because most of them require reading.

What sucks even more is, even if the few of us who are homebrew-spazzes get our shit together and make some PCFX games, who are we going to share it with?

The entire PC-FX owning community could probably fit in my living room.   It's an uphill battle to even get the system going.    We COULD kickstart the thing (not Kickstarter, just, literally, kick it in the nuts and get some new games on it that are what Round Eye wants).

We'd just have to be SUPER ENTHUSIASTIC TO GET PEOPLE AMPED AND PAYING ATTENTION.


Basically.

BTW, Arkhan, how much Japanese do you read? I get the impression that you can handle a few hundred words only. Is that right? You know, I love your enthusiasm, and everything is cool as long as you are enjoying yourself, but I don't get why anyone who doesn't read Japanese at a fairly high level would play those text-heavy games. It seems like you'd have to be more in love with the idea of the games than the games themselves. You certainly can't expect most other non-readers to get the same kind of enjoyment as you. You also can't expect people to take your game reviews too seriously when you don't understand the story of a story-centric game. Sorry if that's harsh...

Enthusiasm is the theme of the PC-FX, I think.

The PC-FX is actually what finally pushed me pretty hard into "I should actually learn how to read Japanese" territory.  The machine is weird and has a weird library of intriguing nonsense.

I can read the text in the games, but man is it slowly.    We are talking like, a minute or two per box if I can read the kanji.  If not, add however long it takes to go look that up.   This is where enthusiasm is important.  You have to be really amped to go "ah shit, I don't know what that says, hold on a second."

It's sort of like work.  Most people don't want to do that while playing a game, since it's supposed to be relaxing and fun.

Playing text heavy games is great practice. It's a bit like how it was for me when I was like 5, playing RPGs.

What fucks me up is the spoken stuff.   I just catch bits and pieces and hope I comprehended enough of it to get by.  Fortunately, the voice over crap isn't vital most of the time.



Though, I already said myself I don't see the point in playing a story-centric game like an RPG or digital comic if you have no clue what the hell is going on.   It might be fun to pretend and make up a story as you fumble from town to town, but I see it as a waste of time.

since my Japanese is always improving, I will probably go revisit some of these games at a later time and see if I misread something, misunderstood something, or anything like that.    I will also probably *finish* more of the games.   Since it takes 90000 years to read the text, I don't exactly make record times, and have other stuff to do also. 

but again, the enthusiasm is important.  That's how I always approached dating sims.  I get pretty into that crap.   It ends up making up for shortcomings in the stories, by filling in gaps due to my rampant imagination. 

Honestly, if you're not a bit hyper/enthusiastic/imaginative, given the current library, I think even if you are a 100% Japanese human, you won't find much to get you going, either because there needs to be more of X, or because Y never showed up at all, or Z needed a bit more work.

You have to be enthusiastic as shit to excuse any shortcomings/derpery going on, and accept the fact that you're playing a machine that has less action games than buttons on the controller.

Kinda like SuperGrafx, only worse.


and if you're talking about the PCFXTOO reviews, I don't think I ever intended for those brief commentary/reviews to ever be taken seriously.  Most are hastily slapped together placeholders and were meant to be gone by now, because I thought I would have that stuff filled out and such way faster than I did.

But then, the tedious-ness set in.

and the "I am working on Atlantean" also set in.

[Joe Redifer]

lol, it's your show.   You do the leg work. 

+ many more paragraphs saying the same thing over and over.

Damn Arkhan I get it. And I was talking with SamIAm and his knowledge is quite impressive. Quite the wealth of information, actually. He provided me with a few games. I never in a million years would have thought of YOU specifically. I don't really pay a whole lot of attention to these forums so I don't know much about you. Anyway there's nothing I regret about the episode other than the too-oft mentions of language being a barrier. As I said, the episode is doing well, and it's better than any other PC-FX video out there as far as providing info on the system and multiple games all in one place. People mostly seem to enjoy it and I'm happy with its conclusions. The PC-FX isn't really truly special. Now something about it may appeal to you or something else about it may appeal to some other guy, but in the grand scheme of things... well it's the PC-FX. It's a footnote, but I'm glad I got to make an episode about it.

Next up, PC-8801.

[Arkhan Asylum]

I don't really pay a whole lot of attention to these forums so I don't know much about you.

We know, lol.

Though, I would've assumed you at least knew some crap about me.  I mean you did shit your pants and unfriend me when you realized we were friends on Facebook a few years back.   That was pretty funny.

Anyway there's nothing I regret about the episode other than the too-oft mentions of language being a barrier.

I wouldn't regret anything in the video, including the language barrier thing.  It's probably good that it's the emphasis.   This prevents people from buying it, realizing they done goofed, and complaining about the thing, only to try hocking it for a profit.

You did a good job of basically saying "check out all this cool shit you shouldn't bother playing because you can't really play it."

I guess me personally, since I am more interested in quirky, and weird things, I would liked to have seen mentions of the OTHER stuff. (The devkit, the Anime Freak crap, the homebrew stuff, the cancelled stuff, and all that).

I had intended on making videos/pages for that sort of thing for the PCFX page I've been halfassing for a few years now.

I sort of realized after enthusiastically diving into it in the name of PC-FX, that I really don't like making websites/pages.

or videos.

Honestly, while I don't like your videos because I generally just don't like watching informative-ish gaming videos, your videos are put together better than any other gaming videos.  So, high five on that.  Doing that stuff is tedious, irritating, and really just not my thing.  I would rather drip hotsauce on my pee hole.

The camera work is crisp looking and isn't wobbling like Michael J Fox is the one holding the camera.

The transitions aren't retarded. 

You don't sound like you have the microphone shoved down your throat.   I appreciate that last bit the most.   Why do some people sound like they are eating the microphone.

Oh, and you don't have the following:

1) A really stupid introduction that tries too hard.
2) Constant camera angles carefully aimed at your shelf of crap you think people on the internet care about.

If I was forced to watch serious gaming videos, I would hope I am forced to watch GameSack. 

Does anyone else find it sad that there aren't more gaming show things that aren't total balls?

EDIT: Are you really doing PC-8801 next? 

[shawnji]

I think my only quibble was at one point, and I forget who said it (probably Dave), there was mention of it being a "family-friendly show" just a short while after a game necessitating censor bars to cover up explicit sex acts had been featured.  I was kind of forced to assume sarcasm, but it definitely didn't come across that way.

The family friendly part was in Dave's original script. I changed it and removed the "family friendly" part because that's something that to me just sounds dumb. He said it anyway somehow. I've removed the words "family friendly" from more than one of his scripts successfully. Basically the gist is that we don't cuss to gain attention like lots of others do, but we still say ass and sometimes shit and other crap like that when needed. I think Dave might be worried about his daughter or his nephew watching. "Unca Dave said 'Fuckin' smelly diarrhea soup' so why can't I cuss too?"

Heh.  I figured it was something like that.  I'd heard him say that in other episodes before, but it stood out in this episode in particular because of the surrounding content.

Overall, I liked the episode, and I think it's hard to fault you guys for giving your honest impressions as Americans who are dealing with a language barrier.  Your general audience isn't exactly overflowing with bilinguals, and those of us who are bilingual have pretty much made up our minds about the system anyway.

[wildfruit]

I just want to see Joe & Dave mosh out to the thunder soundtracks for 20 minutes.
IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK?

[NecroPhile]

Kids gotta learn about sex somewhere, and 'tis safer from the PC-FX and youtube than on the street.

[Arkhan Asylum]

Kids gotta learn about sex somewhere, and 'tis safer from the PC-FX and youtube than on the street.

Pia Carrot Translated should be distributed to all schools nationwide

KIDS: THIS IS HOW YOU GIRLS.

[Joe Redifer]

I mean you did shit your pants and unfriend me when you realized we were friends on Facebook a few years back.   That was pretty funny.

That's odd I remember it as you being the one who unfriended me. I rarely unfriend anyone.

Edit, yep. You deleted me!

/arkhan.png

Anyway I had no idea you were into the PC-FX at all. SuperGrafx maybe.

[Arkhan Asylum]

I mean you did shit your pants and unfriend me when you realized we were friends on Facebook a few years back.   That was pretty funny.

That's odd I remember it as you being the one who unfriended me. I rarely unfriend anyone.

Edit, yep. You deleted me!

/arkhan.png

Anyway I had no idea you were into the PC-FX at all. SuperGrafx maybe.

ah yeah, that's right.   That was right after you made some shitty remark to the effect of "why am I friends with YOU on here", which prompted me PMing you, and removing you.  I'm not sure why you'd accept a friend request if you have no idea who the person is, really.   Seems a bit derp.

This was back when PCEFX went down and everyone was in a scramble, IIRC.  Too bad we can't go find that dumb comment.   I normally don't bother unfriending people, but sometimes, your obliviousness astounds me.

Anyway, yeah, You should pay more attention to this forum.  It's better than all that Sega wank you probably look at.

speaking of shit like that, is Nat still alive.

[esteban]

OK, finally something that is worthy of discussion: what the hell is nat doing these days?

[NecroPhile]

I'm not sure why you'd accept a friend request if you have no idea who the person is, really.   Seems a bit derp.

Welcome to facebook.

[Arkhan Asylum]

OK, finally something that is worthy of discussion: what the hell is nat doing these days?

Last I heard from him, he was asking about an Atlantean card, but then I never heard back.

[Joe Redifer]

I normally don't bother unfriending people, but sometimes, your obliviousness astounds me.

Anyway, yeah, You should pay more attention to this forum.  It's better than all that Sega wank you probably look at.

You bet! Comments like this make me want to spend ALL my time here! I feel so welcome!

[Arkhan Asylum]

I think that's the vagina talking, again.

lol

[Joe Redifer]

Yeah you should probably have that stitched closed. ;)

[Gentlegamer]

You're both losers for being on Facebook.

[ToyMachine78]

Yeah you should probably have that stitched closed. ;)

Since one of you has a vagina, and you are both on facebook, can y'all just fuck and make up already!?

[Joe Redifer]

Facebook is where it's at, yo!

[Arkhan Asylum]

Yeah it's where all the pretend gamers are at, liking each other's posts and spreading fucked up misinformation about everything ever!

and Joe, why would I want to pay someone to have your sweet, drippy vajeta stitched up?  Do the carpets match the drapes.

[Sparky]

Yeah you should probably have that stitched closed. ;)

Haha.. You are the vagina Joe, you overreact all the time, why can you not take criticism?
You took the time to look back and find Arks post on facbook?....Hahaha... My god man, you need a women!

[HailingTheThings]

Yeah it's where all the pretend gamers are at, liking each other's posts and spreading fucked up misinformation about everything ever!

and Joe, why would I want to pay someone to have your sweet, drippy vajeta stitched up?  Do(es) the carpets match the drapes bearded face match the bearded clam?

fixed

Haha.. You are the vagina Joe, you overreact all the time, why can you not take criticism?
You took the time to look back and find Arks post on facbook?....Hahaha... My god man, you need a women!

His honey is cute, watch teh Game Sack. :3

[Joe Redifer]

Gee I wonder why I don't visit this forum very often the members here are so awesome! Actually some of the members are pretty damn cool.

[Gentlegamer]

When it comes to online communities, you usually get what you give.

Be cool, and get cool in return. Be a smartass jerk, get smartass jerk. Even if you're cool, you'll get some smartass jerk, but you can ignore it for the cool.

The most neutral term I'd use to describe your usual attitude online is irascible. But when you get some 'tude backatcha, you start complaining.

Sack up, or check yourself.

[Joe Redifer]

"But when you get some 'tude backatcha, you start complaining. "

That can be said about just about every one here. And thanks for the tips!